Manfred returns to visit td124 !!!... (Part II)

TD124 no topico: Manfred visits td124 !!!... escreveu:

... But, i'm glad you've returned safe and i hope we'll see us again soon!!!... I've spent a super day with you, and i hope it will not be the last...    ...

mannitheear no topico: Manfred visits td124 !!!... escreveu:

... Yes, sadly we had no time for many interesting things! We did not talk about plinths, the mystic "true hybrid" technology, digital...  I hope we can have a sequel one day. ...

Estava claro desde o primeiro encontro que uma nova tertulia devia e tinha que se produzir... então o nosso alemão nacional està de volta amanhã para passar um fim de semana aqui em casa comigo e com a familia... o que nos vai dar a oportunidade de discutir mais, beber e comer e mesmo fazer algumas visitas audiofilas...

E tém sorte, pois o fim de semana anuncia-se com um tempo magnifico e um céu azul e limpo... ideal para uns copos de branco e de rosé no alpendre com 16° à volta das 13h... à escuta de uns disquitos !!!...

Que pu%&a de inveja.


Mas obviamente que desejo que se divirtam.

António José da Silva escreveu:

...  Mas obviamente que desejo que se divirtam.

È o que pensamos fazer, e é mesmo apropriado de dizer à grande e à francesa !!!...

A gente se tiver tempo manda fotos

Now I'm looking forward to the weekend and I'm sure it will be a great time!

mannitheear escreveu:

Now I'm looking forward to the weekend and I'm sure it will be a great time!

I hope there will be torrencial rain, wind with hurricane speed, a complete electrical blackout for two or tree days, and shortage of food supply in the entire surroundings of Montpelier.

Apart from that, I wish you guys, a very pleasant weekend.

Hi António, thanks very much for the nice wishes!

And, I'll return with some interesting to write about in the future...

mannitheear escreveu:

And, I'll return with some interesting to write about in the future...

That is the least you can do for people like me, full of envy and jealousy.

TD124 escreveu:

António José da Silva escreveu:

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I hope there will be torrencial rain, wind with hurricane speed, a complete electrical blackout for two or tree days, and shortage of food supply in the entire surroundings of Montpelier.  

Well, if we have torrencial rain and hurricane's we will remain at the house listening music and drinking some wines (as you loved...), the blackout its not a problem cos i have solar cells plant and the battery are plenty for a couple a days and if a shortage of food supply occurs... the cellar is plenty of wine and its the most important point!...  so, i think that it will be ok anyway !!!...  

Apart from that, I wish you guys, a very pleasant weekend.

Yes we will try it, and tomorrow we will go to Patrick's house (the caveman...), doing some listenings and help him to empty his cellar cos he have too many good bottles...  

... And we wish you a very pleasant weekend also my friend !!! We'll sent some photos if we can...  

TD124 escreveu:

António José da Silva escreveu:

...  Mas obviamente que desejo que se divirtam.

È o que pensamos fazer, e é mesmo apropriado de dizer à grande e à francesa !!!...

A gente se tiver tempo manda fotos

mannitheear escreveu:

Now I'm looking forward to the weekend and I'm sure it will be a great time!

Se tiverem tempo e se derem uma volta por terras mais seguras e civilizadas  * * eu tenho aqui uma prenda do    para esse bárbaro do norte...

reirato escreveu:

... e se derem uma volta por terras mais seguras e civilizadas  * * eu tenho aqui uma prenda do    para esse bárbaro do norte...

Serà dito e mostrado !...

mannitheear escreveu:

Very dangerous area.

Work in progress...

Até já me estou a sentir mal de inveja. Como eu adoraria estar ai.

Dear António, I'm very sorry for you, but there is more to follow...



Savoir vivre!

But, António, it is a big luck for you not to be here. Otherwise you would have heard the violent system in the cave of Paulo's friend, Patrick, and that would perhaps have destroyed your view of the world!

mannitheear escreveu:

But, António, it is a big luck for you not to be here. Otherwise you would have heard the violent system in the cave of Paulo's friend, Patrick, and that would perhaps have destroyed your view of the world!

I stoppend seeing many years ago, so nothing can destroy my view.


Cheese and wine, not a bad starter.

This topic, messages a images are one of the worst things that I view in my entire life…  
France, … je parle un petit peu de francais… je ne comprends pas l équation du monde audiophile!!!
And I don’t like cheese…

Caro António faça como eu, espreite, mas feche logo a seguir, porque sonhar acordado é muito pior do que fazê-lo a dormir…

Have a good night!
Bone soiree!
Boa noite!

A visita em fotografias (Part I)

O nosso amigo Manfred vém de partir de volta para a sua terra nordica, certamente com a cabeça e o coração cheios das experiências que viveu neste curto fim de semana. Vou então fazer uma pequena foto reportagem de alguns dos momentos vividos, e sobretudo daqueles que valem a pena de guardar uma recordação...


... enquanto o TD124 se atarefava na cozinha a preparar o jantar de ontem composto de "ravioles à la ricotta et petits légumes", "œufs brouillés à la truffe" et "quiche aux poireaux et roquefort" pois o nosso amigo é vegetariano... ele tranquilamente escutava vàrios Can's com o meu headamp e digeria a escuta na casa do amigo Patrick que creio que o perturbou para sempre...   pois nem sequer falava no regresso de carro !!!...


... eis o que sobra do jantar de ontém, partilhado com um casal de amigos e muito bem regado por quatro garrafas de vinho, como foi o caso no jantar de antes de ontém também...


... estes são os unicos liquidos que o nosso amigo bebeu durante a sua estadia (chà verde japonês e muito vinho...), à qual devemos juntar a garrafa de tinto bebida na casa do Patrick com um excellente queijo artesanal do Cantal que era quase tão violento quanto o sistema, mas disso deixo o Manfred falar...


... eis o que resta da preparação à escuta do sistema do Patrick, pois na véspera à noite o Pierre Faissat (desenhador da Anti-Lenco) passou uma noitada connosco e afim de preparar o Manfred para a escuta do dia seguinte tivemos que beber quatro garrafas... e no dia seguinte outras quatro para que o Manfred pudesse digerir a escuta...


...a adega està mais vazia apòs a visita do nosso amigo como é evidente, mas o coração està cheio de bons momentos de partilha, bom humor e convivio entre amigos o que é o principal e que faz parte das coisas fundamentais na vida...

to be continued...

A visita em fotografias (Part II)

Enquanto o nosso amigo alemão conduz pela autoestrada que o leva de volta ao seu belo pais, vou continuar esta pequena reportagem, desta vez mais virada para o lado audio...


...apesar dos desejos sincéros de violentas tempestades pelo AJS, o tempo esteve muito clemente com o nosso amigo e foi um fim de semana de Primavera que vivemos e que continua ainda hoje. Ontém trabalhàmos no alpendre com um magnifico sol e 16° e ainda hoje se vê os restos do nosso trabalho no Anti-Lenco...


...contrôle dos resultados ontém à noite antes do jantar e apòs a escuta na casa do Patrick aonde estivemos durante quase duas magnificas horas...


... e não foi sò adega que ficou vazia apòs a visita do nosso amigo, mas o sistema também se tornou minimalista pois o nosso amigo levou com ele o meu amplificador para fazer experiências, no entanto ficou surpreendido pela escuta do brinquedo do meu filho e dos 1,5 watts a atacar as ProAc's...


...mas, esqueçeu-se de levar o amplificador dele e os discos que vieram da alemanha e que vou guardar, ora que o amplificador talvez dê lugar a um novo topico que serà ... TD124 visits Manfred !!!...

Boa viagem ao nosso amigo, que de certeza terà muito mais a vos contar desde o regresso... !!!

José Miguel escreveu:

..
Caro António faça como eu, espreite, mas feche logo a seguir, porque sonhar acordado é muito pior do que fazê-lo a dormir…  

Amigo José Miguel, existem sonhos que basta atravessar a Espanha e fazer mais 300Km para vivê-los... então jà sabe qual é o caminho a seguir afim de encontrà-los...

...mas espero que as fotos das garrafas deixem o AJS danado de inveja !...

Sim senhora, fico feliz por ver que se divertiram a bom divertir.

Boa conversa, boa comida, boa bebida, boa musica e tudo coberto por uma espessa camada de amizade. Um fim de semana quase perfeito. Felizmente que isso tudo prevaleceu e que os meus desejos de acontecimentos maléficos não se concretizaram, porque mesmo que a raiva de não poder partilhar in loco seja grande, e a inveja de ver as imagens seja enorme, o que mais importa e que foram felizes e até eu (a muito custo) fico feliz com isso.

Falta o Manfred vir meter a boca no trombone.

António José da Silva escreveu:

... Felizmente que isso tudo prevaleceu e que os meus desejos de acontecimentos maléficos não se concretizaram, porque mesmo que a raiva de não poder partilhar in loco seja grande, e a inveja de ver as imagens seja enorme, o que mais importa e que foram felizes e até eu (a muito custo) fico feliz com isso.

Eu sei meu amigo, e guardo a esperança que um destes dias te decidas a atravessar os Pirinéos e me fazer uma visita que esvazie complétamente a adega e que os amplificadores aqueçam muito de tanta escuta...

Falta o Manfred vir meter a boca no trombone.

Tenho a certeza que o nosso amigo alemão terà muitas coisas a dizer e a partilhar desta curta visita. Vamos deixà-lo chegar sossegado e em paz à casa dele e depois ele contarà os sentimentos que levou de volta...

Hello all,

There is much to say about my crazy and exciting visit to Paulo, his family and some of his friends in Montpellier.

Let's start in a chronological order.

When I arrived Friday at Paulo's home after a 750 km ride, Paulo, his wife and her son did me heartily welcome. I soon realized that Paulo did very carefully schedule the visit with exciting events, planned exactly the food and brimmed fridge and wine cellar.

He told me that Pierre Faissat would come this evening for dinner. I was very pleased to meet the creator of the artful and clean design of my Anti-Lenco.

Between talking, listening and tasting the first wine(s), Paulo prepared the meal: a quiche of pear and Roquefort cheese, accompanied by a delicate salad of potatoes, special sweet onions from the Cevennes and smoked fish. The combination of the intensive Roquefort with the sweet taste of pear seemed quite exotical to me, but to my surprise, these both very opposed flavours merged perfectly to something third, a exceptional refined new taste!
We talked a lot and Paulo opened one bottle of excellent wine after another, but I cannot remember to have had more than a few little glasses. He must have been drinking the most by himself.  

To be continued ...

Btw. the cheese on the photo was the finish of the meal!

Hi there!

What a magnificent start and excellent words to illustrate the begin of a journey.
I will read your testimony as I read Paulo’s, because it seems to me a very pleasant way to travel in good company.

José Miguel escreveu:

Hi there!

What a magnificent start and excellent words to illustrate the begin of a journey.
I will read your testimony as I read Paulo’s, because it seems to me a very pleasant way to travel in good company.

Dear José,

thank you for coming along with us!

Cheers
Manfred

mannitheear escreveu:

The combination of the intensive Roquefort with the sweet taste of pear seemed quite exotical to me, but to my surprise, these both very opposed flavours merged perfectly to something third, a exceptional refined new taste!

This reminds of a really good animation movie:



And the work done to create visualizations of taste:



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Dear Manfred.

It shows clearly that the start was the premonition of great things to come.

So lets star talking and don't you try to omit anything, not even the potentiality embarrassing situations.

And pictures, many many pictures.

mannitheear escreveu:

... Paulo opened one bottle of excellent wine after another, but I cannot remember to have had more than a few little glasses. He must have been drinking the most by himself.  ...

Maybe it was Pierre that have drinked the most !!!...  

TD124 escreveu:

mannitheear escreveu:

... Paulo opened one bottle of excellent wine after another, but I cannot remember to have had more than a few little glasses. He must have been drinking the most by himself.  ...

Maybe it was Pierre that have drinked the most !!!...    

As "esponjas" a culparem-se umas ás outras.

mannitheear escreveu:

... The combination of the intensive Roquefort with the sweet taste of pear seemed quite exotical to me, but to my surprise, these both very opposed flavours merged perfectly to something third, a exceptional refined new taste! ...

And you haven't tasted yet the exquisite combination of Roquefort with a powerfull but sweet Vintage Port !!!...

Its something to die for

The saturday morning began very promising with sun, an azure sky and very soon the temperature was like in spring.

Because there was a technical problem with the vintage mechanics of my Anti-Lenco, le matin was dedicated to work. Fortunately all could be done outside in the garden. To change the motor, the turntable had to be disassembled and Paulo used the opportunity to apply an additional coat of woodwax to the the Anti-Lenco plinth, which gave the wood a very nice, semi gloss silky finish.

And I had the chance to take for the first time a look inside the Anti-Lenco, where every cutout and each constructive detail are paid attention and made as beautiful, precise and well-thought-out as the visible parts. For example I realized with surprise, that the plates of the tonearm connection terminals are handmade from a piece of massive copper, covered with black paint.

Paulo showed me then how he uses a wooden wine bottle box for tuning the motors to minimal noise. He demonstrated how a closed box resonates and amplifies the tiniest, unaudible mechanical vibrations to well audible noise. Therefore the Anti-Lenco plinths are not boxes but rather have a open design which helps to minimize parasitic vibrations and noise. This is substantial for a source component, because what is inaccurate at the very beginning, remains inaccurate forever.

To be continiued - and pictures will follow!

mannitheear escreveu:

The saturday morning began very promising with sun, an azure sky and very soon the temperature was like in spring.

Because there was a technical problem with the vintage mechanics of my Anti-Lenco, le matin was dedicated to work. Fortunately all could be done outside in the garden. To change the motor, the turntable had to be disassembled and Paulo used the opportunity to apply an additional coat of woodwax to the the Anti-Lenco plinth, which gave the wood a very nice, semi gloss silky finish.

And I had the chance to take for the first time a look inside the Anti-Lenco, where every cutout and each constructive detail are paid attention and made as beautiful, precise and well-thought-out as the visible parts. For example I realized with surprise, that the plates of the tonearm connection terminals are handmade from a piece of massive copper, covered with black paint.

Paulo showed me then how he uses a wooden wine bottle box for tuning the motors to minimal noise. He demonstrated how a closed box resonates and amplifies the tiniest, unaudible mechanical vibrations to well audible noise. Therefore the Anti-Lenco plinths are not boxes but rather have a open design which helps to minimize parasitic vibrations and noise. This is substantial for a source component, because what is inaccurate at the very beginning, remains inaccurate forever.

To be continiued - and pictures will follow!

Somewhat the same ( a kind of?? ...) procedures undertaken with the local resident, downhere in the sunniest Lisboa, eh! eh! eh! ...
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Weight; fully assembled 16 kg, the wood used was really heavy, hard and a pain in the ass to work it out!? ...

Hi there!

We have a Lenco here at home and this history it’s magnificent, because we are so happy with ours and nothing you can tell here will change…
Well, may change something…

Pictures please!!!

A magnificient day.


The master at work.



Outdoor garage and Lenco chassis.


Almost finished!

A true Labour of Love

Thanks for sharing Manfred

Hi there!

What a magnificent place, weather and activities… I hope one day have a professor to learn the bowels of the pieces we have at home.
I need company to… all most everything, but I know how to screw…

Excellent!!!  

A cara do Paulo a fingir que sabe o que está a fazer....priceless.


Manfred, careful, it's a con. It´s the fist time he looks at a Lenco. He is very good at putting that "expert" face, but as I sad, he is faking.


(a inveja ainda não passou...)

On saturday afternoon we went to Patrick. He lives in a small southern France village in traditional french house with an ancient vault in the basement. Perhaps you remember that sadly this space has been flooded in spring and the system was heavily damaged, the whole story is here: https://www.audioanalogicodeportugal.net/t8826-era-uma-vez
After a heartily welcome by Patrick and his wife we went to the "cave" for a listening session.

Now, it's actually a very unique room, full of atmosphere, energy and peace at the same time, ideally suited for gathering with friends, talk and listen to fine music.

Today we would mainly listen to digital - and because Patrick has also an Anti-Lenco turntable which sets the standard for music source very high, he made great efforts optimizing the digital source as well. The music is ripped from CD and stored as FLAC on a NAS. Access is over a ethernet network by a Intel microcomputer as a streamer. The digital signal leaves the streamer via USB and then is converted to coaxial in a Stello USB-S/PDIF converter. The following DAC is a big version of the Olympic, built by Paulo on a bigger board, using better parts. It has a optimized power supply and a TTLD hybrid output stage. Preamp is the quite new Antiton Nirvana Meta based on the last evolution of the TTLD circuit. Power amps are very large Ultimo tube mono blocks. And there are two sets of speakers from Proac, the tiny Tablette Anniversary and the bigger Response D25 floorstanders.


Patrick showed up with an excellent red wine and forceful artisanal cheese.



I took place in the sweet spot, ready to take off.


I was warned before by Pierre and Paulo that listening chez Patrick could become a quite unique and even violent thing. So I was excited about the things to come!

Bruce Springsteen emerged from the nothing and played live, exclusively for us. Other tracks followed which showed an extraordinary 3D stage and almost spooky imaging, completely detached from the speakers.
When I had the impression that the system was mainly about imaging and stage, there emerged suddenly a big, warm and perfectly defined forcefull double bass from the nothing.

Other live recordings folowed, and the recorded applause was rendered very natural without any edginess. I felt the urge to applaude myself. On another track the system showed it's extraordinary resolution and transparency when at a fairly high volume behind a dense woven "carpet" of electronic sound background vocals were clearly rendered with all natural detail, totally separated and untouched from what was going on in the front plane.

Then we listend to some classical tracks which blew me away. Never ever before I heard original instruments reproduced like here. While historic string instruments tend to sound overly thin and sharp on almost every system, this wasn't the case at all here. We heard no edginess, no sharpness, only subtelily, energy and the characteristig slender but rich harmony of the violin. Same thing with harpsichords.

Well, while I talked mainly about sonics, but in fact the outstanding sonic capabilities of the system allow a extremely direct and immediate connection to the music because it communicates and touches on every layer - emotional, intellectual and sensual. And so I was drawn totally into and absorbed by the music.

Finally I  only can say thank you to Patrick and Paulo for this unique experience. It was one of the few listening sessions in lifetime which I never will forget and which has a lasting effect on my own way I want to listen at home!

In Patrick's system I had the extremely rare impression that it could reproduce the recordings in entire depth, emotionally and sonically. Not the tiniest detail seemed hidden, obscured or lost. And, sorry to say this in an analogue forum, a digital source can be exceptional musical - with some advantages to vinyl. I never would have believed how much is actually on plain 44,1 kHz/16 bit CD format.
It's all there, but the way to get everything is not simple, in fact it needs the same amount of knowledge and carefulness to set up a totally transparent digital source than to build a great vinyl record playing machine.

And of course I'm grateful to AAP and all it's members, because without AAP I would have missed so many great experiences and wonderful encounters which have meanwhile a great impact on my life, not only audio.

Hi there!

Beautiful place, beautiful place!!!

And the story of the reborn of the phoenix it's like magic - what we see don’t explain anything, but we believe!!!

I hope to read more and more, i am learning...


ps.: I all ready saw the beautiful piece when Paulo’s described your visit, but I ask now… what is the piece under the Anti-Lenco?

mannitheear escreveu:

... Preamp is the quite new Antiton Nirvana based on the last evolution of the TTLD circuit...

José Miguel escreveu:

... ps.: I all ready saw the beautiful piece when Paulo’s described your visit, but I ask now… what is the piece under the Anti-Lenco? ...

The reply is in Manfred's words so its the préamp, just its not Nirvana the name but Meta, cos the indian paradise its the Manfred's amplifier that you've saw in another picture on this topic...

TD124 escreveu:

mannitheear escreveu:

... Preamp is the quite new Antiton Nirvana based on the last evolution of the TTLD circuit...

José Miguel escreveu:

... ps.: I all ready saw the beautiful piece when Paulo’s described your visit, but I ask now… what is the piece under the Anti-Lenco? ...

The reply is in Manfred's words so its the préamp, just its not Nirvana the name but Meta, cos the indian paradise its the Manfred's amplifier that you've saw in another picture on this topic...

Aproveito para escrever em português que é mais simples para mim.

Agradeço a explicação, mas como não conheço os componentes em causa, fiquei intrigado.
O amplificador que aparece mais em cima e este pré são uma absoluta novidade para mim, nunca tinha visto tais peças e ainda por cima com uma linha estética tão simples e bonita.

Não vou pedir muitas explicações sobre elas, mas desde já as elogio pelo que é possível ver!!!

No conjunto com o plinto do Anti-Lenco, as três juntas, deverão funcionar com uma tal harmonia que só me apetece dizer: não era preciso mais nada!

José Miguel escreveu:

... Agradeço a explicação, mas como não conheço os componentes em causa, fiquei intrigado...

São aparelhos da minha marca e construidos por mim como o Anti-Lenco, é por isso que lhe são desconhecidos !...

TD124 escreveu:

José Miguel escreveu:

... Agradeço a explicação, mas como não conheço os componentes em causa, fiquei intrigado...

São aparelhos da minha marca e construidos por mim como o Anti-Lenco, é por isso que lhe são desconhecidos !...

Os meus mais sinceros parabéns pelas peças, mesmo muito bonitos!!!
A linha que escolheu para eles, simples e elegante, e o material exterior, madeira, são uma preciosidade.
Tirando o Anti-Lenco, que vi por aqui ser construção sua, não sabia do resto.

Quem sabe se um dia não voltaremos a uma conversa sobre eles, mas por agora ainda não dá.

mannitheear escreveu:

On saturday afternoon we went to Patrick. ...

I've showed the text to Patrick,... and he is

Cheers Man

That cavern has the same magic as the "original" cavern where the young Beatles performed over 200 times before there where famous.







Good electronics and acoustics, together with excelente wine and cheese...a combination made in haven.

...and (I almost forgot the most important), good friends that can put all this together.